Please speak with an appropriate healthcare professional when evaluating any wellness related therapy. It's so hard to tell. Or complex causation. And so, I'm saying not engage fully with the culture, but be mindful that you can have junk food for your mind you can have junk food for your body. 00:40 - Daniel Schmachtenberger info + TGS episodes part 1 and part 2 and part 3 + Overview of Nate's story: Animated videos, Economics for the Future - Beyond the Superorganism. What are some other ones for assessment? So, creative problem finding is different than even creative problem-solving, let alone problem-solving that's not creative. So, that's deep. Daniel is an American founding member of The Consilience Project, aimed at improving public sensemaking and dialogue. And that's just I think, part of the picture. But are there certain topics that you think have more relevance or ways of studying them, or ways of thinking about them? Developed a coherent set of Data Principles to influence understanding of data. Daniel is a founding member of The Consilience Project, aimed at improving public sensemaking and dialogue. Whatever, and then they would think about the lateral application of principles, one domain to other domains so there was of course no just met memory, because everything actually made sense and crossing inter-referenced. Also the number of unwitting Red Pills Weinstein drops is an added bonus." George from Youtube. But that is actually kind of addictive kind of feel good, rather than a virtuous cycle, and they [inaudible 00:48:37]. And are they things that you know of, that you think are meaningful, intelligence developing capacities that are kind of physic logically oriented? I don't think that means you need to intervene necessarily, in some drastic chemical way. Most of the current content is in the media section in the form of podcasts and dialogues. But once it does, it's fixed. What does it mean to be a good person, or to have a good society? So learn about the nature of learning scientifically, but also learn about your own unique learning needs and patterns. Using that shitty old metric, for whatever it's worth, so there is a neural feedback study that showed multiple point increase in a week of a particular form of medical neurofeedback that was statistically significant. That was fun man. Similar to that transfer thing we discussed before. It's a small reality. And it's about that zone of proximal development, or the quote Goldilocks, which is that zone that's not too hard, but not too easy. And then they come to understand causality. There's no obvious pathology, and now we are wanting to increase baseline. That whole idea that the IQ test measures this intelligent general intelligence, which is then genetically transmitted, that whole idea came from the Americans, who imported the IQ test at the beginning of the first world war. The interests include ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. On every hill. And there are hierarchies of abstraction of dance, if you've seen a skilled answer, what you have is someone who's supervening on a lot of possible moves, and building this trajectory towards an aesthetic experience. In terms of excellence, what used to be in terms of machines that can out play a violin or whatever. So let's take a Bucky Fuller, polymath type, or maybe like a Paul Erds, almost savant extreme specialists type. I think that's where it is, and that's the, it's interesting because it's an ancient technology of self development, and it's showing profound neurological, as you'd expect, but it's just shocking to see really how stark some of these findings are. Millions of years. And then is there something that we can think of as general intelligence within the more cognitive domains, that is accessible? And so, Robbie Case, was another great Neo-Piagetian. So, this is again, the educational futures. With other quote-unquote non-traditional forms of exposure, which are kind of leavening that. Existential Risks An existential risk is anything that can cause the extinction of humanity. I think of them as kind of invasive species, and the ecology of the mind. This group bets that there is a second evolutionary stable strategy for cohabiting not based on conflict or rivalry, even for life raised in Game A (i.e. But even just a concerted effort to control your own informational environment. Daniel S.: So, I have a few questions to dive in. Until it's all explanation, but it's exploration in the hope of finding it, which is to say that you search, and then you find, and then also something grows that never would have grown, which may be exactly what's needed. Among the solutions, Daniel and Harris discussed was the example of Audrey Tang and the Taiwanese governments adoption of participatory technologies to strengthen civil society. Zachary Stein: I mean again, the assessment question is tough. But of course, every step forward is a dialectic to these kinds of developments. And so, what was first just an instrument used to sort children to get them special attention with no psychological theory accompanied, that it was a-theoretical. Let's take the way it's been used in military, or any other kind of institution. Right so when it comes to health planning, we're going to build tools that out hill climb us. How founded do you think that kind of concern, and those outlier cases is? Zachary Stein: Right, yeah. If we find a product or service we love, we want to share that with our community. It makes sense that if you're increasing neurogenesis, and you're getting actual gray matter density increases, you could increase the computational bandwidth of the system. Motivated by the belief that advancing collective intelligence and capacity is foundational to the integrity of any civilization, and necessary to address the unique risks we currently face given the intersection of globalization and exponential technology, he has spoken publicly on many of these topics, hoping to popularize and deepen important conversations and engage more people in working towards their solutions. To the degree that we are wanting to raise children to fill roles in a predefined society, we of course don't want them to ask. Exactly. See what's working, see what's not working. And again, the machine is that arithmetic mentality of a machine, where is the dynamical mentality is one where those kind of coactive system between both. I have just a part of a voice here today, so forgive that. But if you can find a way to measure that creativity. Now you start to learning the piano, and you've never played before, but you have a PhD in something, you're going to have to be like a little kid for many weeks, many months, maybe years. EU/UK Privacy Policy I think there are ways to do it that are, like or saying, brain entrainment, that are not let's say cognitive behavioral therapy, but much more like letting the brain kind of perceive itself as it were, and work in that way. Yeah. And so, the inside of the brain is that now, again, started to do some state practices, and you'll see that there's some of that. There's a thought that's really interesting to me, which is a non-zero-sum. Like, it's actually good for you. But that's a learning modality thing. Daniel Schmachtenberger 3w Report this post The Consilience Project is looking to fill a bespoke research role. And you need to bring more to it. Daniel S.: It seems to me to be what is thematic of all of the polymaths that we study, is that they didn't actually categorize or segment the different areas, unless they had expertise as fundamentally different. There is an array of Assessments out there which you can use in a quantified-self type way, and so I would never discourage people from exploring those, but I think keep in mind all these lessons about measurement, and measurement of the Mind in particular. They know how they learn, when they learn best. So, the IQ test was really just a very gross sorting mechanism comic created in France, to find those kids who needed special attention. Please read the full Off of normal assessment curves. Other people can move up and down this abstraction and complexity, and let's say at music or dance. So that means, that whatever we thought was maybe genetically attributable as innate, is also not fixedly innate. In November 2021, Daniel joined Tristan Harris on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. I really appreciated this conversation with Coleman and found his perspective to be earnest and seeking to think clearly and fairly about important and often | 10 comments on LinkedIn EU/UK Privacy Policy Daniel Schmachtenberger is a founding member of The Consilience Project, aimed at improving public sensemaking and dialogue. Let's take the way it's been used in military, or any other kind of institution. Beautiful. So, if you have a basic income guarantee, kind of integral social safety net, and some of these other social miracles that I've written about, we would look at something like a broad raising of the floor of quote general intelligence just because so much as a result of that. I worked on that journal, this is a radically transdisciplinary field so, I think it's an interesting period to be someone who has an expertise. And you see from reading this book that the IQ test was not an instrument of science, but an instrument of bureaucracy, and had to do with a quantitative, excuse me, the socio-political history of quantitative objectivity. And problem finding maps to valley crossing, from a kind of evolutionary biology perspective, which Eric Weinstein says the first one is what we call excellent, the second is remarkable. So you get someone like Erds in math, Who develops graph Theory in a way that no one else was even close. Zachary Stein: Yeah. But when you [crosstalk 00:19:37] abstraction from it. Daniel is seen as a leader of the growing Game B subculture of the human potential movement. And so, I think some people may be willing to live with a kind of truncated whole set of skills, and a kind of withered limb as it were, in order to have this super strong branch over here holding up something that needs to be held up. He is a man of average stature and stands at a height of 5 ft 8 in (Approx. And also, it is required to address the unique risks people currently face because of the intersection of globalization and exponential technology. You support the emergence of complex systems. Versus, someone is already in pretty good health. I think that's where it is, and that's the, it's interesting because it's an ancient technology of self development, and it's showing profound neurological, as you'd expect, but it's just shocking to see really how stark some of these findings are. So, I'd have a conversation. And there's a few assessment options at lectica, which they get that spectrum from abstraction and complexity in particular, and these can be useful for some self diagnosing purposes. And now many of those people will not change a lot in terms of taking their IQ test. Which was where the first large-scale standardized test was ever created, was for the Army Alpha One and Alpha Two, which were to sort the incoming millions into the American Army for the World War One. The exploration of state experiences, and the way these interface with capacity development, I think there's another place for people to come if they're topped out at a certain capacity, let's say started bringing a state practice, which brings that capacity to operate under different state, and then you'll find new potential emergence. So, there are many people who are radically skilled at building, really quickly, skills up this hierarchy of skill. And I think a lot about measurement in general, and one of the things that does is that we can trick ourselves. The products and information on this website are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. I think it was sometimes explicitly it's meditation, but rock concerts, movies, all these things are subtle state inducing, [inaudible 01:00:00]. Daniel Schmachtenberger ist Futurist, Evolutionsphilosoph, Stratege und Sozialingenieur. I'm also hesitant to say, well it's an eight, because until we start to get really optimal basic conditions for people, it's really hard to say. Definitely. And how should we think about intelligence? Uebersetzung von schmachten uebersetzen. It also has to do with will, and drive, and creativity, and a lot of other things. So, the kind of concrete, utopian vision of the future of intelligence, would be one where the broad-based line is raised in a huge way. Exercise and nutrition number one. And that can help. That's the problem with intrinsic motivations, that you go directly from simple questions about what am I learning to deep questions about what's the significance of my life? And, so I'm kind of old school methods. But let's take groups like Mensa. And you don't know, you can't connect those dots. NEUROHACKER COLLECTIVE, So, if you have a basic income guarantee, kind of integral social safety net, and some of these other social miracles that I've written about, we would look at something like a broad raising of the floor of quote general intelligence just because so much as a result of that. IQ Score: 120. And, Howard Gardner, and Kurt Fischer who I studied with at Harvard, all they wanted to do was talk about it in a more complex way. So then, and yet it is less clear as far as AGI goes, if we will get valley crossing in the same way. What the 1st 1917 Army Alphas, what they were really getting at was, can this Farm Boy sit at a desk and take this test for 20 minutes? The mind's like an organism that literally metabolizes its environment, and depending on what at metabolizes, it grows in certain ways, or doesn't grow. I would love to go in there a little bit. schmachten - definition schmachten bersetzung schmachten Wrterbuch. That's exactly what I meant by saying that. Multiple lines of intelligence. Does that map to being a general well? Which is to say, one of the most important things you can focus on is the nature of development itself, and the nature of your own learning. But not much is known about him. And just take them with a grain of salt. Want to Read. So, I think one of the things we need to think about is the IQ test and disentangling that a little bit from our conceptions of intelligence, because we've reified and simplified, and I think drastically over simplified. We wanted to start a podcast where we could have these video dialogues, because we have such interesting and brilliant people in our network, who have various expertise in areas of neural science, cognitive enhancement, psychological development, et cetera. Zachary Stein: Yeah, absolutely. 3:44 The difference between intelligence and IQ scores. Any relevant fields, it's two fields. There is some kind of development of the capacity for focus, probably intensity focus, and duration of focus, right? Or there's a question of like, have I allocated all of my neural process in some zero sum, or even if it's positive sum, fixed positive sum kind of way, where I am now a very useful tool. But then as you move up into actual axioms, but axioms about say, physics. So that's a little bit of a preamble to like, okay, let's liberate thinking about intelligence from the IQ. I think there are ways to do it that are, like or saying, brain entrainment, that are not let's say cognitive behavioral therapy, but much more like letting the brain kind of perceive itself as it were, and work in that way. And we wouldn't think about the nature of the disciplines the way we do if we didn't have the kind of post war military industrial university complex. And their capacity roughly matches to their cognitive intelligence capacity. So, I'm curious for you to just start with the education of us. So, a Rubik's Cube is moving around spatio-temporal physical thing is. You need to actually co-opt the opioid cycle, the dopamine opioid cycle, into these learning these virtuous Cycles, as opposed to things, like for example a video game. How do you see the need for hyper specialization changing with advanced technology, exponential tech, and automation? I think of them as kind of invasive species, and the ecology of the mind. What do you think of these kinds of things? Please do not message me directly. Now, I think the reason why that's not true sometimes, is because as I said, if you take someone who's got that, and throw it in an extra spice of something, that they may not even be in their environment, because precisely there that high IQ guy, who gets kept away from those things. before taking any of the products offered on this site. One of the reasons that we are driven to distraction, because of the culture in advertising that we have. Ecosystem is changing. About a general intelligence, and about its genetic heritability. And it turns out that many scientists, like Einstein for example. But in the space of educational abundance, where your unique skill profile that you have as potential, could actually be expressed. Speak to that. We look at the objective branch, right? And so, this is just a fancy way of saying, let's say you are a really smart guy in mathematics, and you start to learn the piano. Daniel Schmachtenberger is a social philosopher widely recognized as one of the founding fathers of the non-profit media organization, The Consilience Project. Roxanne is also a Yoga Instructor at YogaTropics, a polyamorous, and a vegan. Learning is awesome. There was discretion of, okay IQ does seem to predict something in some areas. Like, we're trying to produce this thing, so we're just growing hybridized GM wheat fields and our mind. Zachary Stein: Right. Don't articulate yourself understanding in these languages handed it to you. More computational capacity across the spectrum. Either so that we can crush the competition, or make more money, or raise in some corporate ladder, like be better at some tasks that we can be externally valuable. That's routine. Maybe we say, we shouldn't cluster them at all. And that's important to realize, it's part of the broader global transformation as a global transformation way knowledge is produced. So this is why you need layers of self-reflection. So again, there's a space of unexplored higher human potentials, and forms of creativity that I think our schooling hasn't let us see, what happens when you take someone with a super-high mathematic like you, and teach them to meditate. Zachary Stein: Precisely. I think that's the kind of thing we're talking about here. And so, I think we don't want to homogenize. But still thinking about growing them. Or there's a question of like, have I allocated all of my neural process in some zero sum, or even if it's positive sum, fixed positive sum kind of way, where I am now a very useful tool. I think that's one of the lessons here, is that the IQ test can make it seem like that's it, when in fact that the kind of basic ingredients, but as it were, in one of the areas. He is my beloved advisor. I'm so, and some institutional, text, it's very valuable. Figuring out new things that were in the unknown unknown, requires a different kind of exploration. We commit to cover sensible issues responsibly through the principles of neutrality. This information is never intended to be a substitute for a doctor-patient relationship nor does it constitute medical advice of any kind. Dec 2016 - Jun 20181 year 7 months. Daniel S.: Suggest avoiding those websites for the [crosstalk 00:44:31] has in mind. As president, Grant worked to build . Investigated the emergence of things like the idea of causality. So they would then go to an abstraction level called complex systems. Or it may mean working the soup kitchen, or maybe playing soccer. The mind is a complex dynamic system. Carlsbad, CA. And how should we think about intelligence? Daniel S.: Do you think it's a worthwhile concept amongst the multiple lines of intelligence two separate ones that seem more generally abstract from more embodied? You said if you expose the kids from poor backgrounds to the number line, that they might just not have been exposed to, they start to do better. On this episode we meet with founding member of The Consilience Project, Daniel Schmachtenberger.In Part 3 of their series, Schmachtenberger and Hagens explo. Finite And Infinite Games James P. Carce, The Collapse Of Complex Societies Joseph A. Tainter, Gdel, Escher, Bach Douglas R. Hofstadter, Operating Manual For Spaceship Earth Buckminster Fuller, The Best That Money Cant Buy Jacque Fresco. I think everyone has a kind of intuitive sense of something that relates to processing speed and memory, and computational power, that is kind of in distinction to artistic inclination, or interpersonal inclination. They also have other underdeveloped capacities as results of how they've developed that. It may be the wake-up call we need. So, this is wonderful. And it's a classic principal in psychotherapy, if you're totally dependent upon the world, you are very vulnerable. Because the Neo-Piagetians got to the point where they said, okay. So, an intrinsic part, that's part of it. It's a bookmark. Using that shitty old metric, for whatever it's worth, so there is a neural feedback study that showed multiple point increase in a week of a particular form of medical neurofeedback that was statistically significant. Someone can have a qualified self feedback that is also wrong, where? But it's skill development. This site is a collection of Daniels public content. I am heading up research and development here, and this is my first interview on this side of a podcast. And so that intrinsic motivation is huge but that gets really deep really quickly. Zachary Stein: Beautiful. But again, and a scramble of the war effort to synthesize and to organize, give it one number, and put it on a linear trajectory, and use it to rank countries unilaterally, and make it the single most valuable thing. The far-ranging 3-hour conversation explored, among other topics, how AI-powered, advertising-driven social media platforms pose a significant threat to democracies. And it's hard, you have to go searching for those [inaudible 01:00:34]. Because that's really one of the hearts of the issues here. Humans understand complicated systems. And it means supervening on the traditional research academy, in blurring those boundaries. And so, this is just a fancy way of saying, let's say you are a really smart guy in mathematics, and you start to learn the piano. Like a growing tree, many branches, like the darwinian metaphor. But a whole other things happen in that other branch of the socio moral and ethical, and similarly with intra. I extracted the personal development work Daniel proposes from a podcast he did with Collin Morris's Zion 2.0 titled: #36 A Republic, If You Can Keep It, with Daniel Schmachtenberger. Currents 030: quantified-self devices right now, because we want to curate the tools that can help people. So, that's important. So it's not to keep going up. 21:06 Does IQ Map to Success in Some Areas? So that's just another way of assessment. And that's the way the mind works. I'm dyslexic, so this is a little personal. You're going to have inflammatory chemicals, inflammatory cytokines that can cross the blood-brain barrier because neural information, infect all aspects of top-down neurological function, including cognitive. All content provided on this website is for informational purposes only. And how the niche can change as a culture around you changes, as I grow, and grow more. 2022 This episode of the podcast features Dr. Zachary Stein, a philosopher of education working at the intersection of developmental psychology, psychometrics, and integral philosophy. And there's something like 7,000 genes that we've identified actually have epigenetic modulation with different forms of exercise. So you get someone like Erds in math, Who develops graph Theory in a way that no one else was even close. So, what is it measuring? Minimal. They're totally different things. And this is one of the questions that drove the Neo-Piagetian audience. Updated Zachary Stein: That's a much clearer way of saying what I was trying to say. And so, the spatiotemporal logical mathematical one starts with the kids learning gravity, and the ball bouncing, and all the things you do and as spatiotemporal world that PJ investigated. He believes that advancing collective intelligence and capacity is fundamental to the integrity of any civilization. I think what we're looking at now are kind of truncated skill profiles, wear a lot of potentials are not expressed for a variety of reasons. We need to think more broadly, and in a kind of context we're in globally, I think Hunter S. Thompson who said, when the going gets weird the weird turn pro. There are a few kind of neural hacking methods that have some early indicators that they elevate IQ. Don't articulate yourself understanding in these languages handed it to you. So, I'm curious for you to just start with the education of us. Moreover, the organization's content delves into the major challenges and existential threats confronting humanity and the underlying issues with current approaches to addressing them. I saw one study on genetics that looked at people with above 170 IQ, old genome assessments, and I think what it said was, no individual snips made had high correlation, but there were patterns, [inaudible 00:40:52] patterns across the whole genome. Daniel is married to his beautiful wife Roxanne DePalma. And you don't know, you can't connect those dots. And Benet was very explicit, and Stephen Jay Gould gives this beautiful account of Benet's dismay and concern at the reification of IQ. Which of course, makes perfect sense, and I think the way we usually think of it. Best 17 Quotes by Daniel Schmachtenberger. That's kind of stereotype, but we don't know the range of people's multiple intelligences, which is to say, the first step for many people is just to explore lives that they have not explored. But so, for people who are thinking about their own capacity, and how they can think about it, how they can support it, how they can enhance it, you obviously said that the way of thinking about intelligence that is roughly valid, and IQ, is thinking about the capacity to develop skills more than any particularly skill. How founded do you think that kind of concern, and those outlier cases is? youtube.com Anti-Rivalry, QAnon, and SOCIs - Jordan (Green)Hall So, intelligence. Different kinds of intelligence patterns. Many of these can be found. But they say, like you said, intuitively there's clusters. Contact Daniel If you want to contact Daniel, please use the form below. And so, Robbie Case, was another great Neo-Piagetian. His book recommendation includes the following books. The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. Not just for rooting out who is not qualified, but also who is qualified for higher level capacities. Then you see other people where they have novel value development across many fields that are obviously inter-informing each other, because of lateral thinking, and because of abstraction that is then finding generalized principles across domains. And thus, the advice I give to most of my friends who have kids, separate learning from schooling. But like, I'm going to make a distinction between things that increase capacity where the capacity was already decreased from baseline because of pathology. But specifically, you define problem solving, and problem finding as fundamentally different kinds of problems. So, let's talk about even within the realm of reasoning about objective reality. The physiology is a complex system. On every hill. And what might some of the modalities that we start in engaging in look like? Which is to say, intelligence is consciousness operating the world. So, say you have someone that solves Rubik's Cubes very quickly. The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. And it's a classic principal in psychotherapy, if you're totally dependent upon the world, you are very vulnerable. I think part of it comes from my caution around the assessment, which is to say, the DSM is a nightmare. Okay, this has been a blast. When it says to be capturing? The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal. Genetics expression from various forms of exercise, and aerobic versus anaerobic, versus high intensity interval training actually affect different gene expressions. So, I have a few questions to dive in. 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